Ford ALMOST Made a "SuperBird" for NASCAR in 1996 With Lincoln Parts..Here's Why It Never Happened
Huge thank you to the legendary Don Miller at the North Carolina Auto Racing Hall of Fame museum in Mooresville NC for telling us this epic story and hanging onto this prototype from his days as Penske South president. Some may know John Andretti tested a Lincoln Mark VIII bodied Winston Cup car at Charlotte in 1996 and that never made it to race day....BUT...the story does not end there! Before the blob eye Taurus took the track in 1997 there was almost a whole new car created by Ford just for NASCAR racing!
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  • Stapleton42

    Stuff like this just makes me wonder how different things could have been. If you love racing history like this make sure you subscribe and check out the “racing history nerd zone” playlist on the channel!

    • Screamn03

      That Taurus in the parking lot has me wanting to know the story. Ass end is defiantly different.

    • Josh Flippin
      Josh Flippin

      I love the what if game when it comes to racing history, so many different avenues you could go down

    • Boss429

      It’s been 2 months and still no video about the mysterious experimental silver Taurus. When are you going to post a video about it?

    • Vigilant Guardian
      Vigilant Guardian

      I would like to know the story of the sable taurus in the parking lot.. I grew up with nascar crewchief Robert"Booty"Barker and I believe when he was attending college at old Dominion University he may have been part of the aero dynamics crew who worked on the developement of the ford taurus in the wind tunnels of nasa langley base in Hampton Virginia.. maybe you could track down a story on that car , I will assure you it had the goods to make a great story.. as told by booty.. as always enjoy your channel

    • Sudsy Sutherland
      Sudsy Sutherland

      @Stapeton42: I live in Windsor,Ontario,Canada which is right across the river from Detroit & obviously Detroit is the automotive capital of America & Windsor is the automotive capital of Canada & we have the big 3 factories here with Chrysler,Ford & GM,. Windsor use to have an oval track called “Checkered Flag Speedway” but it closed down in 1992. So the nearest paved oval track to Windsor is the 1/2 mile at Delaware Speedway which is Canada’s oldest paved oval track. Anyways my point here as this video is about the Ford Lincoln car, in Canada back in the 80’s,90’s & up until 2006 we had the touring “Cascar Super Series” which were fibreglass bodied stock cars with Dodge,Ford,Pontiac & Chevy cars & huge car counts like the NASCAR Winston Cup Series. Anyways there was also the Cascar sportsman series which was a series that ran just at their local tracks weekly & there was a few guys that ran a Ford Lincoln stock car. Cheers from Canada

  • Ryan Martin
    Ryan Martin

    That generation of Taurus was an awful-looking road car and looked even worse as a NASCAR. I'm curious to hear the story about the one out back, though!

    • Stew Puddy
      Stew Puddy

      I knew a guy who ran a Taurus bodied Pro Stock and it was sponsored by "Clee Motors" naturally, it was the "Clee Taurus"

    • Tim Daniels
      Tim Daniels

      Taurus was called "tortois" lol

    • wildewaffle

      The 98-99 Taurus NASCAR body wasn’t horrible in my opinion, but the 2000-2005 nose and tail pieces looked awful.

  • slab busterRTR
    slab busterRTR

    In my opinion ford shouldve never stop making the thuderbird

    • K____ R____
      K____ R____

      First gen of the new, sleek Thunderbird and its sister the Cougar were the best.

    • John Wilson
      John Wilson

      @Dean Ladue It was a 3.9 liter V8 from Jaguar. The 4.6 was a very solid engine that gets a lot of flak because of the 5.4

    • Dean Ladue
      Dean Ladue

      They did make the "retro" styled T-Bird in the early 2000s, but it wasn't cheap and the 4.6 V8 was plagued with problems. Ended up being more trouble than it was worth to keep building.

    • Aaron Thomas
      Aaron Thomas

      When sales numbers fall, cars get cancelled or replaced. The Thunderbird was at a point where it made no sense. It was neither a family car, nor a sports car. At the time it was finally cancelled, people were buying family cars, sports cars and the SUV craze was just starting to take off. Cars that lacked identity and sales, got cancelled. The only way Ford could have justified keeping the Thunderbird around, would have been to repurpose it to compete directly with the Corvette again, which they don't actually want to do.

    • Shannon Gray
      Shannon Gray

      I agree

  • Jason Fields
    Jason Fields

    By gosh Mitch you keep knocking it out of the park with these interviews.. Don Miller a legend during the Miller Lite days should've asked him about the legendary "midnight car" driven by Rusty Wallace... keep up this kinda great work

    • Stapleton42

      Thank you Jason! Hopefully Don will make some more videos with us

  • Don Falloon
    Don Falloon

    Kranefus/Haas also built a Mark VIII but kept the Continental rear deck with the rear spoiler following the contour of the hump. It put the spoiler higher in the center and gained downforce. This same idea was used on the later "Intimidator" Monte Carlos with great success obviously. The team unloaded it at Charlotte in full Kmart livery on purple paint and John Andretti drove it. IIRC, it was as fast as the current Thunderbird right out of the box. I believe this would have been a very successful car and again, if memory serves me, NASCAR was good with it. Then Ford changed their corporate mind and decided to keep Lincoln as its luxury division. A missed opportunity IMHO.

  • Jay h
    Jay h

    Would love to hear the story of the Taurus.

  • Ryu rc
    Ryu rc

    I wanna hear more about the Taurus. That thing has a big ol butt stuck on it. Same thing that he said about the Mark7 though, not enough trunk to make downforce, I can't tell exactly what they did, but I'm sure its twice as tall at the trunk as a normal taurus.

    • wes barnes
      wes barnes

      I think that's a Ford escort deck lid and taillights grafted onto the back of the Taurus. It's definitely taller than normal.

    • Brandon Lee
      Brandon Lee

      Def taller deck lid and the rear bumper was more flat no pertrusion below trunk also

  • young11984

    Damn Taurus looked like it had the newer escort tail lights, hell yea man this back story videos for all brands is fkn awesome. These are a part of racing history 95% of us have never heard or would have ever known without you bringing it to us, im a die hard Ford guy and never knew any of this with the Lincoln as a race car. I cant go to car Museums, last one they almost ran me off because i cant just look at the outside and be happy, i was sliding under them looking at what made them work vs todays stuff so they got pissed and we argued then the big 300lb guy told my little 120lb ass i best get to stepping so stepping i did.

    • CR7659

      Now I went to some of those museums in 2012 and I just asked them if I could look at some of the details of the cars and they let me do it. Granted it was on a weekday and hardly anyone was there, but I found everyone to be pretty friendly and nice to let me take pictures and stuff up close of some of the cars. I just made sure not to touch anything.

    • Tom P
      Tom P

      @bravesws95 Yeah search Google images for a 96 Taurus with a side view. That silver one has some drastic alterations to the trunk lid and quarter panels. Ford probably could have sold them like that advertising extra ten cubic feet of trunk capacity.

    • bravesws95

      it's the entire rear end of that Taurus

  • Richard Isner
    Richard Isner

    If that car made it to the track. Chevy & Dodge would have been crying to NASCAR about Ford's unfair advantage.

  • Gene McCoy
    Gene McCoy

    In the late 90s the monte was WAAAY better looking than the taurus, but the grand prix looked best

  • Cameron Dawson
    Cameron Dawson

    Interesting point on the rear spoiler. The 2000-2002 Monte Carlos had a pretty similar (not as dramatic) hump in the rear spoiler as the 37 car shown. And, yes, we need to know more about the big booty Taurus!

  • Bryan Mulligan
    Bryan Mulligan

    It’s a shame you had to grow up in the Taurus days. When I was a kid I got to watch Bob Glidden and Bill Elliott clean house with their 80’s Thunderbird’s. My mom had to buy a T-Bird after watching Bill Elliott lap the field twice at Talladega.

  • Keith Billiot
    Keith Billiot

    Man that’s a cool car so glad someone like you are out there documenting the history of Nascar keep up the good work

  • John Barker
    John Barker

    I've never seen this before, though I remember John Andretti being a big advocate as the then-current Monte Carlo was absolutely beating up on the Fords.

  • robkal56

    I worked in Ford Body CAD in the nineties. I remember there was some work being done on a T-bird roofline that was a good bit lower than the stock vehicle. This story reminded me of that and how the two could be related. Cool story Stapleton

  • KlipschHead281

    I've owned a few Mark VIII's and have a '95 as my fun car in the garage. Trust me many of us knew all about this car when it was out and couldn't understand Ford/Lincoln built such a car and held it back.

  • ronald l
    ronald l

    Really enjoyed watching Bill Elliot driving the thunder bird. Agreed the Monte Carlo was a cool race car. Would like to see the story of the Taurus that is outside.

  • David Garland
    David Garland

    I love your Nascar videos. You really do a great job of getting the history. I have been into Nascar since the 60's and I have a 89 Iroc Z and a 04 Intimidator Monte Carlo. Keep up the good work. I watch all of your videos.

    • Stapleton42

      Thank you David we appreciate you

  • Henry Callahan
    Henry Callahan

    i think it would have been the Mercury Marauder and it would have been an absolute monster in its first season and then Mr. Bill France would step in and do what he did to Gordon's T-Rex and rewrite a bunch of rules around that particular car to either ban it or remove its advantage

    • Stapleton42

      Probably 😂

  • Mark Miller
    Mark Miller

    Cool! Love to hear about racing history, this rocks! Glad to see you two exploring the NASCAR background and documenting it for all of us. Always with you & Logan, & keep up the excellent video content! Thanks man!

  • imaracecarvroom

    Would definitely love to hear the story behind the Taurus because it’s clearly stretched out in the back and to me it looks like it has lights from an escort 🤨 depending something interesting going on there

  • EvilScientistMoose

    I already see some differences in the Taurus outside, so naturally I'd love to hear about it.

  • David Barnsley
    David Barnsley

    It would have been very interesting to actually see it on the track and to see how fast it would have been I suspect it would have been the wing car of its era I would like to hear the Taurus story I would have called it Lincoln Daytona 👍👍👍

  • Alan Schroeder
    Alan Schroeder

    I had a 93 Mark 8 in the 90's and loved it. It was fast on the highway and smooth riding. Amazingly it got great gas mileage on the highway, not so much in town. I'd heard rumors of a possible Cup car in NASCAR at the time, and now I know the rest of the story.

  • Tyler Baxley
    Tyler Baxley

    I went to that museum years ago with my grandpa and my uncle. When I heard the story of that Lincoln I thought it was one of the coolest pieces of racing history.

  • Randy Alldredge
    Randy Alldredge

    Excellent story!! I really appreciate you bringing NASCAR history to light. You definitely should post the Taurus video!

  • Rear Engine Shop
    Rear Engine Shop

    Cool interview! That car is very interesting. Looks good. Imagine if it could have been raced.

  • Scott Mulrooney
    Scott Mulrooney

    I fell in love with the old school tbirds years ago. In fact I'd love to restore and run a NASCAR tbird. What's the deal with that old Taurus? Didn't even look I like a SHO.....

  • Sharky's Garage - RC and More
    Sharky's Garage - RC and More

    I really love this kind of content, its so important that these stories are recorded and put out there for prosperity, thankyou for continuing to do this content ! #SAWChequeredFlagSquad (C.F.S) watching every video to the very end !

  • Rusty Nail
    Rusty Nail

    Another great video in the discussion/interview series. Well done again. This truly isn’t you father’s Lincoln. The rear bumper lines, with the comparable photo you posted, drove it home. Love to see a video on the Taurus, if you’re up to it. Just wanted to add, no matter the brand you take the time to give it respect. Greatly appreciated.

  • Mark S
    Mark S

    I`m definately down for the story on that silver car! Back then I wasnt a Ford fan either, (team #3 forever!) but I do like the cool stories of how and why things happened, no matter the driver, team or brand! Keep `m coming, I`ll keep watching, liking and commenting!

  • Jeff Bergen
    Jeff Bergen

    Great video Mitch. At the time, Ford's decision to switch to the Taurus in '98 was extremely disappointing to me as a 16 year old fan, especially because it was getting axed just in time for Nascar's 50th anniversary. The Thunderbird was so much better looking than the new Taurus (even as a blue oval fan, I can't see how anyone would actually spend money on that Taurus body style). The Thunderbird was the last vehicle in Nascar (at that time) which was still a V8 RWD platform in street car form. Growing up, I was a big fan of Bill Elliott, Rusty Wallace, Mark Martin, Davey Allison, and Alan Kulwicki, and those T-Birds were some awesome looking machines. You bring up a fascinating point at 14:30 - as a young kid, you probably figured Ford was the hokiest thing on the track (and the street) because of the lame choice of body styling. Being a little older, I got to enjoy the T-Bird setting records at Daytona and Talladega and was the car my favorite drivers and teams chose. By the late 90's, there was no doubt the Monte Carlo and Grand Prix were much better looking race cars. That being said, I'd still love to see a video about the old Taurus sitting out behind the museum. Keep up the great work!

    • Stapleton42

      Thanks man! We appreciate your insight

  • John Z
    John Z

    What a shame Ford/Lincoln bowed out on that really cool car. Cadillac on the other hand stepped up in the last decade and cut loose with a family of VERY COMPETATIVE RACE cars that raced on Sunday and sold like HOTCAKES on Monday!

  • Fish Pony
    Fish Pony

    Ford Taurus SHO?? Very cool to hear the OG’s talk about racing history.

    • Michael Hornbostel
      Michael Hornbostel

      I’m thinking RWD, just to see if it worked.

    • Maverick Buckley
      Maverick Buckley

      @Ryu rc hmm... RWD then?

    • ceedubya

      I had a SHO, twin turbskis and a 6 speed manual. That thing would fly man

    • Ryu rc
      Ryu rc

      Honestly I thought the tail light and trunk were both up about 8 inches compaired to a normal one. The whole trunk doesn't slope off like normal.

  • Chris Schieck
    Chris Schieck

    I remember hearing about these cars being tested. But went with the Taurus instead

  • David J. Lindborg
    David J. Lindborg

    Hell ya Mitch & Logan, killing it! Loving these types plus the LSXCalade, Monte Carlo videos. Suck it Cole!

  • Aaron Rice
    Aaron Rice

    Man, I had a mark viii in highschool..thing was an absolute ripper. Leather and air ride. Got it cheap because it needed compressor and bags. Cool to hear from Don Miller. Big Rusty fan growing up too

  • Greg Simon
    Greg Simon

    Oh I remember the Taurus fiasco, from 4 doors to 2 doors. But ford wanted to use it because it was a huge selling car when it came out. Great video, thanks Mitchell and Logan.

  • Tony Jennings
    Tony Jennings

    This content about what nascar used to be is absolutely awesome. You can make the episode's way longer because it's worth watching. Keep it up.

    • Stapleton42

      Thank you Tony

  • Dave Van
    Dave Van

    So good to see Mr Miller again, I dealt with him a number of times during my stay in NASCCAR, a nicer guy you will never find. Cool story, I knew of the KH Lincoln as I had access to the shop and took photos of it back in the day. I did not know the Superbird stroy, shows that there are still stories to dig up. THX

  • BamthePatriot

    A lincoln based Nascar would have been awesome. I have always liked the mark Lincolns and always thought the 8 would have made a cool Nascar. So seeing that it was a thought at one time was really cool.

  • Chris Larivee
    Chris Larivee

    I love these type videos. Your passion for racing history is amazing. Please keep making these. Don't forget the car builds as well. I like a variety of content, keeps it from getting stale and redundant. Great job you two.

    • Chris Larivee
      Chris Larivee

      @Stapleton42 damn right you are. Forgot to mention, I would love to see the deal with the Taurus.

    • Stapleton42

      Thank you Chris! We are going to be working on the 632 install in the suburban tomorrow 💪🏻

  • Joseph Partin
    Joseph Partin

    You are consistently bringing the best content on IRglo, and for that, I thank you.

    • Stapleton42

      Thank you for supporting us man

  • willi j
    willi j

    Can't wait to hear the details directly about the Taurus

  • C Erhart
    C Erhart

    There would have been a lot more Ford victories to be sure. Mark Martin & Dale Jarrett would have both made bank for a few years. Definitely need the story on that Taurus's definitely an oddball.

  • the stray dog
    the stray dog

    The Kranefuss Haas Lincoln in the photos was a beautiful beast. Who remembers Cale’s 98 team shaking down a Cougar?

  • Will badger badger
    Will badger badger

    Oh hell yeah love this fantastic channel and all the adventures and cool stuff you do and share thanks for all the awesome content so far and what’s to come!

    • Stapleton42

      Thanks man we are glad you’re on the team!

  • Sean Kennedy
    Sean Kennedy

    I don't know how much this thing hitting the track would have changed my life. It wouldn't have convinced me the Taurus wasn't a POS.

  • Raresvtsign

    As a mark viii owner I’m proud lol, even tho it’s a first Gen it’s still badass, people will forever sleep on these cars and I’m glad they do, cheaper for me to have fun and people aren’t destroying them, bought mine when I was 16 so I’ve had it for 4 years, mark viii “community” is as boomer as you think but it’s better that way

  • Carver Moore
    Carver Moore

    Long time subscriber, first time commenter. Love the content you and Logan put out. My grandfather worked for Texaco, so I grew up around the old Yates 28 show cars. I rep my Stapleton Auto Works Robert Yates style shirt and hat all the time. Thanks for telling the stories of old time NASCAR and keeping the history alive!!

    • Stapleton42

      That is awesome!

  • Phil Albright
    Phil Albright

    Awesome content! Love the little known NASCAR stories. Looks like the back glass in that taurus has been modified.

  • 91S10BAJA

    Back in 1997, I was working at a car rental office on Sharon Amity Boulevard in Charlotte, NC (Branch 5311 for any old-school “E” folks). We received a reservation from a NASCAR team for a Ford Taurus. As a race fan...I spoke with the guys that were sent to retrieve the car. They said they were going to use it to make some templates...which I thought was pretty cool. They loaded the rental Taurus on an open trailer...and returned it a few days later (with the same mileage...they didn’t even put a mile on the vehicle).

  • Michael Pierce
    Michael Pierce

    I really enjoyed this interview! And appreciate your content and how your bringing Nascar history to your channel!

    • Stapleton42

      Thanks Michael!

  • Jason McKinney
    Jason McKinney

    Would love to here about the car outside, awesome content, what if, man it could have been different. Mitch you and Logan are great finding this great information and all the background. Keep it coming! Much love from Kentucky!!! The Taurus was awful grocery gettin mom's car, yuck 🤮 try to look cool in Taurus on the street😂🤣😂🤣 love my Chevy!

  • Jebediah Gentry
    Jebediah Gentry

    Of course I wanna know about the For Taurus sitting outside. It does look a little different in the rear. I think the thunderbird could have been a much better car than it was. They should've given it more power.

  • Mo Perry
    Mo Perry

    I would be beyond ecstatic if iRacing went and scanned that car and put it in the sim. Motorsports preservation work could be done so well with that service.

    • Stapleton42

      Great idea

  • Tahoe's & Turbo's
    Tahoe's & Turbo's

    Perfect way to start a Wednesday! such an awesome piece of history and you just know there was more cars like this over the years. i will agree 100000% the Taurus body was awful looking and the Chevy's were always the better looking cars but this one kinda gave me those same vibes the Lumina's did lol got about 13 years on ya but grew up diehard Nascar thru the 80's and 90's so I'm loving every second of this, cant wait for part two where you show the world that special Taurus 🤘

    • Stapleton42

      Thanks man! At first glance when I went in the museum the first time I thought this car was a lumina until I looked at it

  • ross smith
    ross smith

    There's a couple other significant. Mark Viii's ,land speed record tan one, twin supercharged white one Tasca Ford built I believe animal jims black one.. Lowest drag coefficient car that Lincoln has ever produced., I owned a champagne and a silver one, both awesome cars they were like a flying couch with air ride. But parts getting tough to find.

    • Joseph Rabideaux
      Joseph Rabideaux

      I know the guy who did the 92 Lincoln Mark viii speed record. He’s actually going to do another one soon

    • Alan Schroeder
      Alan Schroeder

      I owned a 93 Mark 8, white with a black interior in the 90's and loved it so much I had a chance to buy a 94 Mark 8 in 2009, Black with a grey interior, 63,000 miles for $3200. I snagged it and still have it. Yes parts are hard to come by though.

  • Robb Chastain
    Robb Chastain

    For just the fun of racing and marketing, surely Ford could've sent a bunch of Lincolns to a shop for homologation specials. And they could've called it the Wily E Coyote. :)

  • Jon Ihander
    Jon Ihander

    Loving the content as always keep up the great work. Thank you for the hours and hours work you's put into this. It would have been totally different without the Taurus still to this day don't really like the car and its still ugly, and I don't care who you are the older monte carlos will forever be cool.

    • Jon Ihander
      Jon Ihander

      @Stapleton42 mitch and logan you are welcome

    • Stapleton42

      Thank you Jon

  • duckedup

    Love the channel btw and love how you're teaching the history of a sport I love, last post was definitely not meant to throw shade...Just an old Nascar fan/dude perspective 👍☺

    • Stapleton42

      Thanks man!

  • Keith Ennis
    Keith Ennis

    quite a few years back my family and I got to meet Mr. miller while we were on vacation there. He gave us a little tour around the museum. and brought us outside to show us the drag car that he was going to run one last time if his wife did not find out lol. I wonder if he got to run that car? I May have to go back down there and find out. great guy and awesome museum. we enjoyed it a lot more then the hall of fame.

  • garycsfunlife

    Growing up and watching Winston cup and having that curiosity of how these men were doing what they did how these cars went so fast just the little things of yes you did this but how does it work why does it work that's how these men directly influenced me to get into mechanical engineering so to actually see and hear some of the stuff that went on behind the scenes is just amazing for me and I would imagine for anybody that grew up in that time frame this is just thank you it's really all I can say to you and them for sharing their stories this is just amazing

  • DarthSniper MikeM
    DarthSniper MikeM

    This channel really comes up with some gems sometimes. Great job man.

  • Joel Rodriguez
    Joel Rodriguez

    Would love to hear the story of how the Taurus was turned into a stock car. That rear bumper on that Taurus is obviously not that of a production Taurus sedan. It looks like it was an evolution of the previous gen Taurus wagon.

    • Sergeant Masson
      Sergeant Masson

      Joel Rodriguez, Ford never produced a V8 RWD two door Taurus and GM never produced a two door V8 RWD Lumina. GM never produced a two door Chevy SS either. Holden produced the Chevy SS cars in Australia,

  • Rudy Hollis
    Rudy Hollis

    Killer content Mitch, loving these stories of what coulda been. I really like all the cheated up stuff the old timers used to do, would really like a sit down with 4-5 older guys just talking about cheating and things they got away with!!!! Thanks to you and Logan for all the foot work you put in!!!!!

    • Stapleton42

      You’re welcome Rudy. Thank you for being here

  • Tom King
    Tom King

    Back then we almost bought a Monte Carlo. I liked the Ford drivers but never considered buying a Taurus. Boxy grocery getters is what they were then became rounded ugly for nascar. Today’s cars are better. They look better anyway. Mark could have won more if he used the chrome horn.

  • Jimmy Young
    Jimmy Young

    I’ve had 7 Marks in the course of my life and I’ve loved everyone of them. The best was when I was in high school surprising the Camaros and Mustangs when we would race.

  • Howabouthetruth

    Wow. That is one GOOD lookin' car. It even LOOKS fast. And from the sounds of the numbers in wind tunnel testing, it would've been far superior ( aerodynamically ) to anything else on the track at the time. I agree: the Ford Taurus was by far THE UGLIEST CAR to ever race in NASCAR. I've always been primarily a Chevy man when it came to NASCAR Cup racing, but I was never a brand loyal snob either. My favorite driver among all the Ford teams during this same time period, was hands down: Mark Martin. I predicted to all my racing buddies that "Mark Martin will be the most successful Ford driver of modern times". Of course as it turned out, Martin never won a championship, but he had such a string of bad luck in those days. Otherwise, I'm still convinced that he would've been the most successful of all the Ford teams. If bad luck didn't strike, Mark was always in the hunt, running at or near the front. He also raced really clean, to run as strong as he did.

    • Bill Hamner
      Bill Hamner

      Mark Martin was a real competitor but was hooked up with a racing underachiever.

    • plymouthhemi426

      I think that 2006 Charger was the ugliest. To me that thing was horrendous.

  • Matt Karrer
    Matt Karrer

    As a Ford man this makes wonder what could have been…….. 😭

  • Reginald Hall
    Reginald Hall

    I had always heard that Cake Yarborough's Nascar team with John Andretti showed up at a track with it. But Nascar's wouldn't allow it because they didn't have any templates to check it with. But it seems some of those rumors were true

    • Stapleton42

      Andretti did test one with Haas Kranefuss maybe thats what you're thinking of?

  • J Tuck
    J Tuck

    I’ve never cared about a Taurus in my life but I definitely want to hear the story of that silver one!!

  • J.T. Cooper
    J.T. Cooper

    I heard about this back in the 90's. I used to own a 94 Mark VIII and a 96 Mark VIII LSC. Great cars that I owned a long time back in the day.

  • Story Racing 387
    Story Racing 387

    I LOVE old history like this! It's what made me want to know EVERYTHING about NASCAR!!! But.....I certainly didn't know about this! So glad you are getting stuff like this on film. Sadly, guys like this won't be around for ever and if stuff like this wast documented, it would be lost. That car would probably be gotten rid of as "some old dumb race car" and it would just suck if that were to happen. Awesome video dude!!!

    • Story Racing 387
      Story Racing 387

      @Stapleton42 you are very lucky to be able to talk to all the folks you've had in your videos. I know the "Tribute Petty" car was kind of a joke (it was the first video of yours I watched...I've since watched the rest of your collection) but even talking the guys at that shop was really informative and I'm sure had a ton of history behind them. 🤘🔥

    • Stapleton42

      Thank you Jeremiah! That’s exactly why we set out to document things like this. To keep it alive forever 💪🏻

  • rebelracing88

    Great video. Don Miller really is a cool guy, and he helped make Penske Racing a powerhouse. Do you have a link for Mark Martin’s podcast where he talks about the struggles they had with hanging the bodies?

    • Stapleton42

      It’s in the podcast titled 1996 or 7

  • Tony Geinzer
    Tony Geinzer

    Stapleton, I'd love to see 00 Reutimann's Dominos or Burger King Specials either in a Proper Museum Home or Raced Again. I love to see some of the Earlier Toyotas be Homed in either a Museum or Race Track. I still Mad at China Red Bull is doing Red Bull things, especially if the F1 Team is too big for its own good.

  • Hexen Motorsport
    Hexen Motorsport

    I guess I'm the weird one - I like the look of the Taurus. But yeah... would've loved to see this Superbird/Marauder out there.

  • Peter Ciesielski
    Peter Ciesielski

    Ford had too many "conservative designers" during the Taurus/Tempo/Escort years and they were playing it safe.

  • Jim Maxson
    Jim Maxson

    Nice job and history. So the Sprint car and the coupe modified is what I grew up with and owned throughout my racing career. Keep up the good work

  • Arthur Fricchione
    Arthur Fricchione

    Thanks for sharing. I’ve followed NASCAR for a long time and never heard this story. Very informative. The only reason I Ever followed Ford was the fact Mark Martin drove them and he was my guy. Thanks to both. Of you for sharing and stay safe and well and keep the videos rolling 🏁🇺🇸 Artie

    • Stapleton42

      Thank you Artie we appreciate you